Report from the CHDC at the Grof feedlot in Lindsay, ON – May 5, 2012

On another trip to document the horses in the back feedlot at the Grof property in Lindsay,ON, the peacefulness of the day belied the reality of the situation.

Birds sang, the sun shone and a warm breeze blew, but it did little to mask the truth of the situation.  The dangerous, prison-like fencing, the fresh spring grass just out of reach.

Doomed horses of all breeds, ages and sizes – all with the same destination in common – the Richelieu Meats horse slaughter plant in Quebec.

The majority are draft types, with Belgians being the most common.  Also a group of 6 or more grey Percherons are there.

One beautiful Clyde or Clyde cross, with flowing mane and forelock – so long, it hides her eyes from view – nuzzles her companion.

There are surprisingly some horses that were previously seen here in early April – a Pinto or young Paint with a black mare (his dam?), a roan Belgian cross yearling, and a young Belgian cross with a deep chestnut coat. 

 

I can only speculate these horses are being held until they mature, and bring more on the kill floor.  Upon further observation, the roan Belgian cross is a weanling, and is still suckling on his Belgian dam/mother.

Many poignant moments happen – the quiet Belgian with chunks of mud stuck in his mane.  I want to reach and pull them out, but the barbed wire fence makes that impossible. 

 

The young Belgian who precariously scratches himself on the barbed wire fence. 

 

I take a moment to reach out to a Percheron who came to me over the fence, and capture the moment on film. 

 

This horse and many others know the kind touch of a human hand.  But any hands that touch them now will do so perhaps kindly, but with betrayal. 

I try not to dwell on that thought and continue documenting these horses, who thankfully appear well fed, however most have several layers of dried mud up their legs, and I speculate how many must have mud fever and other ailments from the wet, muddy ground.  I hear one Belgian with a horrible, raspy cough.

They are curious and wary.  You get the sense they know they are in a strange and inhospitable place.  Many want to reach out but are quite unsure.  The older ones sense I come peacefully and gladly accept my kind voice and hand.

It’s very hard to finish photographing and walk away.  I linger just because I feel it’s the right thing to do.  I’ve been here before and know it’s important to capture these images, since it tells their story, which otherwise would have been forgotten.  That offers a level of comfort, however it’s still difficult to turn around and walk away. 

I’ve been speaking to them, and now I will not lie to them – all I can do is say a final “Goodbye”.  They have each other, and that makes me feel better.  They’ll be there hopefully for each other until their final long trip on that big ugly trailer, and they’ll be deceived right up to their final moment by the people who were entrusted with their care. 

All I can say is, I’m sorry……….I’m sorry I cannot change your fate, and it breaks my heart. 

 

180 comments

  1. While everyone is trying to save the horses lets not forget the wild ones.
    Please sign and share for the few remaining Canadian wild horses!
    Stop the SLAUGHTER of Wild Horses in Alberta!
    http://www.change.org
    Horses have a right to live and be free. They should be afforded the rights and protection of other species of wildlife and not considered a nuisance…

    1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      I did and I agree. We have to save these as well.

  2. Ok I just posted some slaughter stats and info and it is waiting moderation again…..

    1. Hi. I don’t know why your comments go to moderation. Modern technology is great when it works! 🙂

  3. There are four horse abattoirs in Canada: two in Alberta, and two in Quebec. Huberdeau is just past Morin Heights in the Laurentians (not far from St. Jerome if you want to google it, Mary-Joe). To answer your question, many Quebeckers do not know that horses are slaughtered, period. Dan is not a native Quebecker so he was as shocked as any of us once he discovered the situation here.

    1. frances · ·

      thanks for info i thought there was 3 in quebec.i also thought they had horsemeat in the grocery stores there so i was thinking they would know

      1. I am somewhat surprised to see so many who are not aware of the slaughter of horses for food.
        You also need to know the meat is also tainted with drugs that can cause cancer in humans.
        In the U.S. we have undercover (Animal Angels) who have documented the brutality of slaughter.

        You need to rally the horse soldiers and start a movement in your own area. I sent a couple of folks on this group some posters you could print out and distribute in your area.

        I would also ask the C.H.D.C. why they would not purchase a billboard or two and put them where they would be seen by thousands.

        One of the billboards we posted is close to the headquarters of the American Quarter horse.
        They do not like it but they get the message.

      2. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Good for you. IN THEIR FACE! The AQHS is one of the biggest culprits. They are the ones that are pushing for slaughter. And they call themselves horse lovers.

      3. The AQHA, Paint Horse Association and the TB Association are the largest pro-slaughter groups.

        There are breeding incentives ($$$) these groups pay their membership to continue to breed and breed.

      4. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Yes them to. So easy to send a horse to slaughter if they don’t meet up to standards.

      5. Read ’em and weep….

        A 38% increase over the same period last year.

        Yearly:

        http://equinewelfarealliance.org/uploads/00-Slaughter_Statistics.pdf

        By week and Month:

        http://equinewelfarealliance.org/uploads/00-Slaughter_Statistics-week-month_2012.pdf

        I changed the format a bit. I’ve added two columns that may be useful in your efforts.

        1) Slaughter supporters frequently use the logic of a cumulative total of horses that would be roaming the streets over a number of years if slaughter ends.

        Using their faulty logic, I did the same thing but started with 1990-the highest slaughter count recorded-as the base year and added the number of horses that weren’t slaughtered in subsequent years. With their logic, there should be 6,198,697 horses roaming our streets! Each year reflects the base year minus the number of horses slaughtered in that year. That begs the question, where did all those horses go?

        2) The next column is a count of exported horses during the years the slaughter plants were open.

        Although not reflected in this spreadsheet, here is proof once and for all, the slaughter option that they keep saying is gone, is nothing but a flat out lie. I took the 5 years prior to the plants closing compared to the 5 years after the plants closed.

        2002-2006 534,156

        2007-2011 609,205

        Difference 75,046 or a 14% increase

        If we take 6 years – 2001-2006 and include this year’s numbers annualized (April numbers) we get an even higher percentage.

        2001-2006 631,638

        2007-2012 (April annualized) 745,951

        Difference 114,313 or an 18% increase

    2. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      Oh Okay. We did have 6 but two got closed. We need to close these one at a time. One of the slaughter houses was about 10 km from where I live. But that has since gone. It is now a chicken processing plant. Well for that matter, Canadians in other parts of the country may not know as well.

  4. Mary-Joe …. you took the ‘thoughts’ & words right out of my mouth when mentioning ‘having to control myself when talking about this issue. ‘They are the first, all day long & last I think about at night, in fact lastnight in bed, cried then tried to read a magazine. Yes, there are times I think I am truly loosing it as well!!!
    It is good to hear others are feeling the same….we need to get this ended.

    1. Dear Lana the thought of this monstrous disgusting slaughter it went far too deep into my veins that every time the word horse is mentioned i see heads and legs cut off a pure undiluted image of disembowelment. I see also some demented retards that are having fun trying to see how many shots an poor animal can take before it gives his end in one the most disgusting places ever created on the face of the earth.How many hectoliters of blood must be shed for the brave people of this country to scream bloody murder ???
      There is something more i see above all,i see good people doing nothing and when that happens the evil men triumph .Are you familiar with that ?
      It is far to disturbing to me to swallow the thought that a civilized nation can cut in pieces and dismember their own horses. I am not sure where the root of the problem is but i am trying to get the sense of it.
      My affirmations above someone said it scared people.They were not indented to scare anyone,its just the way i express myself sometimes when my blood boils inside of me because people are not united to take action.
      There was a gentleman above saying that there are 3300 suporters here,my respect goes to him but i do not see 30 supporters here,so i suppose the other ones are in “vacation”.
      A simple question sounds like this—how can people go to sleep knowing the deranged abnormal practices they do in their own country and they are not moving a finger ???
      Why people are not mobilizing themselves to take action and end this disturbing madness???
      How else can i write it in English,i do not know,but if someone else has a better way to say it,i invite them to do so.(Lana this questions were not directed to you in particular)…more to come…
      Also those interested to get in contact with me,please let me know,specially those living in Quebec.

      1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Bonjour Dan, Christine saved two horses lives. Please go to the FB page of CHDC and see them. Ils sont tres beaux, Maude and Stewart. Are you on FB. I can send you an invitation. Ciao

      2. Yes thank you i have seen the pictures already,they are cute horses, but lets see what fate awaits them from now on…
        I am not on facebook.

  5. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    Can someone tell me where Huberdeau is? Christine, I am so happy. We saved a horse’s life. We certainly did it. I posting that on my fb page as well. Way to go. I will send some more as soon as I can.

    1. Huberdeau is in the province of Quebec in the Laurentides.

      1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Sorry to be so stupid, but don’t the Quebecers know that we slaughter horses in Canada? I am glad that we were able to smooth things over with Dan. We could use him to home some of the horses. This is a perfect example of what horse slaughter can do to people. I know many times I have to control myself about this issue. My first thought of the day and last are horses. There are times when I think I am truly loosing it.

      2. When reality hits…..it hits hard,..The tough of Slaughtering horse is definitely hard to swallow.
        i know exactly what you mean…

      3. frances · ·

        arent the slaughterhouses mostly in quebec?

      4. yes they unfortunatly are in Quebec.

  6. Hello Everyone. I have been in touch by phone with Christine and with Dan, the man who was trying to express himself in his 3rd language. I cannot divulge a lot because the Huberdeau, QC, case is ongoing, but please understand that Dan is new to the very idea that Canada slaughters horses–something that is anathema in his own country–and is not familiar with how things work here. He jumped to conclusions about what was being discussed here, and he was very sorry to have insulted Christine; he just didn’t really understand, and, based on his experience in Huberdeau and a recent experience with one of the alleged horse sanctuaries in QC, he became emotional and suspicious. I have assured him of the status of the CHDC and of Christine, whom I know by reputation, and have tried to put them in contact so that some of those draughts can be re-homed. Please, as Mary-Jo mentioned, focus on his passion for saving horses, and not on linguistic mis-communications which have led to hard feelings. Like all of us, he wants to help but being new to the Canadian horse slaughter issue, he is still in a bit of a state of shock and also has to try to understand our ways and our language. When Dan heard about the Huberdeau case, he jumped in his car and saved at least one horse. (More I cannot say, for now.) I know that when I first found out that we slaughtered horses in Canada, I walked around like a madwoman, disbelieving and in shock. That’s where he is now, and I implore everyone to not write him off, but to understand, especially Christine, who has done so much to save horses directly, something which I, for one, admire tremendously. I would name a star after you, Christine, if I could think of a name that befits your amazing work. I implore everyone to understand that some people (including immigrants) join our cause, yet have little mentorship or language skills and try to express their love of horses as best they can. Dan is one of those….

    1. Thank You! I enjoyed our chat today. I am looking forward to speaking with Dan again, I think we are at an understanding with each other. It is an emotional situation for all!

    2. frances · ·

      okay thanks for clearing that up…i was afraid he would frighten people away when they were doing all they could to help. it is horrible that this country is so uncivilized .

      1. Today we bought an 11 yr old Belgian mare named Maude from Grof. She is trained to drive single and double and has been used on most farm implements. With the funds that I had and $200 from Mary Jo We Did It!!! Am posting on my blog a pic of her and another horse saved today with assistance from another friend of mine Pat, a sweet QH gelding named Stewart, he is well broke to ride. We only have dial up but I will start uploading pics now! Horseadoptontario.blogspot.com

      2. frances · ·

        can i put on the fb page?

      3. frances · ·

        let me know when you put pics up

  7. Christine, sorry about not understanding, if you could mail me back the check, i will send a new one made out to you and add a few dollars for my june help that i promised.

    1. frances · ·

      SORRY-
      i did ask christine at the rescue if they would do that….. the address is:
      Freedom Valley Horse Rescue
      1012 Mount Horeb Rd
      RR #3 Omemee, Ont
      K0L 2W0
      TO: Christine Welch

    2. Hey, I called you back and left a message,sure, will return the cheque. Thanks and am sorry for any misunderstanding.
      Lookin forward to chatting again soon. auction tomorrow, I have a bit of $ and $200 from Mary Joe, hopefully we can outbid a meat buyer for one! Will let you know!

  8. Thank you CHRISTINE, for Whatever you can do with the monies that are sent, i will send more in June. Was great talking with you from colorado.

  9. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    I may be all wrong people, and i hope i am but there seems to be a consensis that there has only been enough support to save one Horse. If this is fact we should be ASHAMED, as i believe there is a following of roughly 3300 people. Assuming one Horse can be purchased for 600$ means that on average as a group contributions amount to less than 1$ for each follower. Surely as individuals looking to save these unfortunates, that as commited followers we can afford which amounts to a coffee at Tim Hortons. Further with contributions as dismal as this, it is no wonder the CHDC is unable to do more in bringing this brutal industry to PUBLIC ATTENTION. Remember this, all the talk between each other will not save one Horse, It takes a stream of CONTINIOUS support. And yes i contributed 200$ as well as a few others did.

    1. frances · ·

      dennis are you on facebook. everyone could see this message….or i could do it.

    2. frances · ·

      okay ill paste it

  10. frances · ·

    to mary-joe, i dont think anyone should send any horse to this guy, sounds iffy

    1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      To Frances – no worries it had crossed my mind already.

  11. again to you: please stop making uninformed comments . you clearly have no idea what is going on.

    1. In order to avoid “uniformed comments” Someone needs to post the name of the person who is holding the money, the name of the person who is going to the feedlot and this would help to stop these comments.

      The person who is collecting the money needs to let everyone on this list know exactly how much money has come in and available for rescue.

      The price of each horse needs to be posted as well.

      1. read all the comments starting from the beginning

      2. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Oh Boy!!! – I feel like I kind of started a battle here. It was my suggestion that I send in some money and then someone else said they would send as well. Christine Welch is the person we sent it to. At this time we do not know how much money she will get. She will let us know and she will send us a picture of the horse. I think that this is a quite simple. Lets not get too hyper about this. I would like to see the horse get adopted out so we can get another.

    2. Madame,when i will adress something to you,please do the same to me,but till that time,let’s keep it quiet.

  12. frances · ·

    to DAN GHINDEAN- please do not say negative things.everyone here is trying to do as much as they can. it looks like there is enough to save one horse, andthat horse will save another.this is not a service for people.there is not enough $ for 6 horses.im worried that you sound negative and are harming the efforts of the rescuers in this case.

  13. Rescue Centres
    The Canadian Horse Defence Coalition encourages the adoption of horses from qualified rescue centres.
    To see Wild Horse Societies in Canada click here.

    Adena Springs Retirement Program
    The first in-house retirement program within the thoroughbred racing industry, Adena Springs matches horses with loving owners who will make a lifelong commitment to their health and well being.
    Aurora, ON

    Bear Valley Rescue
    We have found wonderful homes for many amazing horses.
    Sundre, Alberta

    Circle F Horse Rescue Society
    We are a registered nonprofit, charitable organization that cares for horses that have been entrusted to us and, when ready, adopt them out to appropriate homes.
    Abbotsford, B.C.

    Critteraid – Project Equus
    We are a society devoted to animal welfare.
    Penticton, B.C.

    Earth ARC
    Devoted to the rest, rehabilitation and retirement phases of life for all animals
    Four Mile Brook, Pictou County, Nova Scotia

    Hilltop Haven
    We are dedicated to making a difference to abused, neglected and misunderstood horses and ponies.
    Little Britain, Ontario

    HorseRescueOntario.org
    As a group we are compelled to save as many horses as possible and give them the happy endings they deserve.
    Kitchener, Ontario

    LF Ranch Rescue Society
    Rescue a horse, give a new life
    Vilna, Alberta

    LongRun Thoroughbred Retirement Society
    We believe that our brave and beautiful thoroughbred racehorses deserve a dignified retirement.
    Toronto, Ontario

    New Horizons Equine Centre
    Providing Second Careers for Off-The-Track Standardbreds
    Wallaceburg, Ontario

    New Stride Thoroughbred Adoption Society
    New Stride’s goals are to ensure that each and every non-competitive and injured Thoroughbred racehorse gets a second chance and is placed into a caring adoptive home.
    Surry, BC

    Ontario Standardbred Adoption Society
    Assisting in the adoption and relocation of retired and non-racing Standardbred horses within Ontario
    Campbellville, Ontario

    Paradise Stable Horse Rescue
    Giving horses a second chance!
    Saskatchewan

    Precious Hope Farm
    Dedicated to spreading the word about horse slaughter and educating others about trying to keep these beautiful animals out of harm’s way
    Kitchener, Ontario

    Refuge RR for Horses We feel we are indebted to these magnificent beings.
    Alexandria, Ontario

    Save a Horse Dedicated to rehabilitating and maintaining damaged horses
    St. Thomas, Ontario

    Saving Grace Equine Rescue
    Making a difference for each horse by placing neglected, abused, old or unwanted horses and ponies into new, loving, permanent homes
    Bracebridge, Ontario

    Spirit of The Red Horse Sanctuary
    A place of healing for humans and horses
    Cochrane, Alberta

    The Donkey Sanctuary of Canada
    Peace, freedom and protection
    Guelph, Ontario

    Whispering Hearts Horse Rescue
    Our mandate is to provide care and rehabilitation to abused and neglected horses.
    Hagersville, Ontario

    Wild Rose Equine Rescue Society
    To rescue, protect and prevent the abuse of equines through rescue operations, education, investigations, and advocacy
    Gibbons, Alberta

  14. Sending 100.00 today, will send more begininng of June. I live in Colorado, real close to New Mexico and the news in roswell nm, the slaughter house is not going to open, what a sick world of people, Good Luck to all those that are able to visit the horses.

    1. Wonderful, I think we are figuring out the details!

  15. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    I too have received some spam directly to my e-mail and not to the junk box. So beware of anything coming to your computers. I suspect they are coming from this site.

  16. I just want to give a heads up to all who are posting that this blog is no longer secure.

    I am getting warnings and also in the search link at the top of the page you will notice a red line through the https.

    Marge

    1. andalvin1962 · ·

      Marge, we’ve had no notification of any problems and this is not an HTTPS site. The URL is just http:// no S in it. Thanks.

      1. Thank you for the clarification.

        Can you tell me why the links I posted to those who asked are awaiting moderation?

      2. I’m not sure. It seems a bit flakey for comments. Sometimes someone who has commented in the past gets the “awaiting moderation” and other times not. WordPress is great but does have some issues! 🙂 It could be that you had a link in the comment so it’s a securtiy thing?

      3. If anyone on this list would like the necessary information to help end the slaughter of horses in Canada please email me at redmm97@cox.net and I will happy to provide you with the infol

        Marge

  17. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    Mary Joe Figueira Your comment is so valid to this subject. PUBLIC AWARNESS IS THE KEY. I contacted a billboard agency some months ago, 1500$ per month plus 175$ for the image. I brought this to the attention of the CHDC board with no success. For any movement to address this brutal industry, it MUST HAVE ORGANIZED PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND CONSISTENT DONATIONS TO COVER SUCH COSTS, anything less is simply not effective. SIMPLY PUT, THE PUBLIC CANNOT STOP WHAT IT IS NOT AWARE OF.

    1. frances · ·

      yes-but need fundraiser or donor for signs

    2. From what I am reading here there are folks who are not aware of the pending to end slaughter bill currently gathering signatures to end slaughter in Canada. With that said please read the following and share with family and friends etc.

      Member of Parliament Canada, Alex Atamanenko, of the New Democratic Party, feels that if he can present Parliament with 10,000 Signatures Protesting Horse Slaughter in Canada, and Supporting his Bill C-322, An Act to amend the Health of Animals Act and the Meat Inspection Act (slaughter of horses for human consumption), thus prohibiting the importation or exportation of horses for slaughter for human consumption as well as horsemeat products for human consumption, that he will be able to have the bill adopted into LEGISLATION.

      CLICK HERE for more information about the Progress of C-322.

      We only need 2,000 more signatures to reach the 10,000, which Mr. Atamanenko feels will be Significantly Influential.

      PLEASE CLICK HERE to Sign Petition.

      Marge

      “Teamwork divides the task and multiplies the success”

    3. Can you kindly post the link to sign petition so we can start having signature asap.

      1. Copy into your browser to open.

        CLICK HERE for more information about the Progress of C-322.
        http://openparliament.ca/bills/41-1/C-322/

        PLEASE CLICK HERE to Sign Petition.
        http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/358/099/292/?cid=FB_Share

      2. Ann please email me at redmm97@cox.net

  18. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    I can send another donation sometime next month. I have a son getting married in two weeks, so I am a bit tight at the moment. The $200 is all I can muster at the moment. But will send some more next month.

  19. More people have to get together and take SERIOUS ACTIONS about the slaughtering of horses.
    We have to ban this awful law.Saving a horse here and there makes us feel like we did something for them, and we did ,but only for some of them .In the long run it will not resolve the huge problem….How many more poor horses have to suffer and be slaughtered before we act???Most of the population do not know they are being slaughter in such barbaric ways.
    There are many videos on the internet showing these poor animal taking their last breath in the worse inhuman ways,they need to be seen on TV, we have to physically protest, people have to wake up to the reality of what is really happening …and put an end to this monstrous senseless killings.i know it is not easy it takes a lot of our time but it really cannot go on this way……Enough with talking about it let’s start acting.I’m sure many feel the same…..All our hearths are breaking for them going to slaughter.

    1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      It is the damned politicians whose minds we have to change. Laws have to be passed to eliminate the slaugther. It takes time to pass these laws. In the meantime, if we can save the horses from slaughter then there will be no “product” at the plants. We need to eliminate the “product” from these plants so that they cannot produce. We need to go out the back door. I think we should get more of those billboards up, like they put up in Ottawa. We need to advertise that would be a good way of doing it. Anybody know of anyone in advertising that could propose some adds. By advertising we could hit the general public. Wouldn’t that shock all the slaughter plants and the KB.

      1. Unfortunately not everyone feels about horses the way we do. I recently did an interview with the Peterborough Examiner about the future of racehorses, there was an online chat about the article. One fellow welcomed the extra horses because we all have cats and dogs and can use the meat. I am still a “newbie” when it comes to computers, still learning, I did not know how to reply to the guy at the time… I will know next time – I am “gettin it”!

    2. frances · ·

      yes i think most people dont know- i had to search for the information.i didnt watch the videos,but just seeing the still picture the horse about to be killed is bad enough..people are frantically trying to end it but there are politicians that just dont care that much about this.

    3. I hate to be realistic, but horse slaughter is banned in Canada they will be shipped to Mexico, it is not going to stop horse slaughter it will just prolong the trailer ride and hardship. Thats what happend when the US closed, they just got shipped further, it did not stop it from happening. Its not going to stop it, they will either be slaughtered for meat or animal feed illegally which does happen even now, or shot out in the field because the owner doesn’t know what else to do.

      1. frances · ·

        yes-people will continue to be cruel to animals despite laws-but it should still be banned. also someone told me that horsemeat was allowed in pet food as it has too many drugs in it. but i guess its okay for people to eat….

      2. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Hi Frances – did you say it was not allowed in pet food because of the drugs. Your email said it was allowed in pet foods because of drugs. I think you meant to say it was NOT allowed. Fancy that!!!! Somebody’s got it right. I always check my pet food to see what the ingredients are. I have never come across pet food that “states” it has horse meat in it. Has anybody seen it? If so let us know the brands so we will not buy it.,

      3. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Hi no worries about the transportation of the horses to Mexico. Once hopefully Bill C-322 is passed another law needs to be passed making it a criminal offence to transport horses across the border. A similar bill is frozen in the United States Congress making it against the law to transport horses for slaughter across the border. Unfortunately the bill is frozen and pending. That is why we are getting horses from the U.S. If we could also pass that law, our horses could be protected from crossing the border to Mexico. PROBLEM SOLVED.,

      4. meant was not allowed, as in NOT SAFE. yet people insist its safe. but hey if people want to eat horses they should get sick as punishment. the people we talk -to while we are protesting -that are going to the restaurant (la palette) dont seem to care, we have seen the owner give it to people to taste (as a taunt?) and they just arent listening. the restaurant owner certainly doesnt care about what hes serving.

      5. frances · ·

        hey if people contribute $ to get a horse does that mean they can be a co-owner/adopter? i guess that means that you will need monthly upkeep donations too

      6. We need to come to some sort of concensus. I am not sure what I am supposed to do….. Ghindean Dan says he will take 5or 6 Draft horses but does not have the funds to save them , I am not sure how much $ is coming, it appears that there only may be enough to save one horse. The way our rescue works each adoption saves the next horse. Do you want me to adopt out the horse, to good home only of course, and then save another-it is a snowball effect. 2 yrs ago I sold my kayaks and saved a horse with the money. So far we have saved 14 horses with that money.

      7. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Hi Christine – see how much money you get and we will take it from there. if Ghindean would like to take it that is fine with me. That frees you up for more. I will contribute some more next month (after my son’s wedding). Cheers

      8. christine thats a great idea-like a save horses chain-i thought you just kept them all.

      9. Here is a list of rescues taken from the CHDC webpage, these are the folks you want to work with to help save some of these horses.

        Rescue Centres
        The Canadian Horse Defence Coalition encourages the adoption of horses from qualified rescue centres.
        To see Wild Horse Societies in Canada click here.

        Adena Springs Retirement Program
        The first in-house retirement program within the thoroughbred racing industry, Adena Springs matches horses with loving owners who will make a lifelong commitment to their health and well being.
        Aurora, ON

        Bear Valley Rescue
        We have found wonderful homes for many amazing horses.
        Sundre, Alberta

        Circle F Horse Rescue Society
        We are a registered nonprofit, charitable organization that cares for horses that have been entrusted to us and, when ready, adopt them out to appropriate homes.
        Abbotsford, B.C.

        Critteraid – Project Equus
        We are a society devoted to animal welfare.
        Penticton, B.C.

        Earth ARC
        Devoted to the rest, rehabilitation and retirement phases of life for all animals
        Four Mile Brook, Pictou County, Nova Scotia

        Hilltop Haven
        We are dedicated to making a difference to abused, neglected and misunderstood horses and ponies.
        Little Britain, Ontario

        HorseRescueOntario.org
        As a group we are compelled to save as many horses as possible and give them the happy endings they deserve.
        Kitchener, Ontario

        LF Ranch Rescue Society
        Rescue a horse, give a new life
        Vilna, Alberta

        LongRun Thoroughbred Retirement Society
        We believe that our brave and beautiful thoroughbred racehorses deserve a dignified retirement.
        Toronto, Ontario

        New Horizons Equine Centre
        Providing Second Careers for Off-The-Track Standardbreds
        Wallaceburg, Ontario

        New Stride Thoroughbred Adoption Society
        New Stride’s goals are to ensure that each and every non-competitive and injured Thoroughbred racehorse gets a second chance and is placed into a caring adoptive home.
        Surry, BC

        Ontario Standardbred Adoption Society
        Assisting in the adoption and relocation of retired and non-racing Standardbred horses within Ontario
        Campbellville, Ontario

        Paradise Stable Horse Rescue
        Giving horses a second chance!
        Saskatchewan

        Precious Hope Farm
        Dedicated to spreading the word about horse slaughter and educating others about trying to keep these beautiful animals out of harm’s way
        Kitchener, Ontario

        Refuge RR for Horses We feel we are indebted to these magnificent beings.
        Alexandria, Ontario

        Save a Horse Dedicated to rehabilitating and maintaining damaged horses
        St. Thomas, Ontario

        Saving Grace Equine Rescue
        Making a difference for each horse by placing neglected, abused, old or unwanted horses and ponies into new, loving, permanent homes
        Bracebridge, Ontario

        Spirit of The Red Horse Sanctuary
        A place of healing for humans and horses
        Cochrane, Alberta

        The Donkey Sanctuary of Canada
        Peace, freedom and protection
        Guelph, Ontario

        Whispering Hearts Horse Rescue
        Our mandate is to provide care and rehabilitation to abused and neglected horses.
        Hagersville, Ontario

        Wild Rose Equine Rescue Society
        To rescue, protect and prevent the abuse of equines through rescue operations, education, investigations, and advocacy
        Gibbons, Alberta

      10. Finding great homes for our horses is what keeps our rescue going.. I can’t keep them all and keep on saving them. We have saved 70 from slaughter and have assisted in placing 28 from private homes.

      11. I would like to know how many horses you can save with the donations, you are collecting ?How much time you have before he brings another trailer to the plant?
        Surely you must know some people in your area that are against slaughter and can help to donate to save more horses.Why not contact other rescues for help? you say there are 300 horses ?where are the 300 horses.If people are offering to take some horses and they have space why not?time is passing.i do not understand why you say,you don’t want to break your relation with the meat dealer by sending someone to try to deal with him,when he really doesn’t care who hands the money is in as long as he is paid.How could you have stand this for so long???and not want to pursue the change of law on slaughtering horses.It would have been a prior Goal to do so.?

      12. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        The change of law has to come from Parliament. In the meantime we do our best to rescue as many horses as we can. Christine knows this KB and I agree with her that she has to keep the relationship going in order to be able to keep rescueing the horses. Lets leave that part to her.

      13. What do you think I am doing??? The rescues in the area do work together, for the most part, we don’t have the funds to save them all. Of course my “relationship” with Grof and the other meat buyers is important, I need them to sell to me-I cannot piss them off or they won’t. I am just being honest, Grofs will escort uninvited persons off the property-just letting people know. I am not sure how much money is coming, therefore do not know how many we can save. From what I see from some of the messages it looks like we will be able to save one horse at this time, when that horse gets adopted we will sve another, and another etc. Why does it seem that you are giving me a hard time aout this??!!!. I am trying to help both you people and the horses….

      14. My concern is that will just save one horse, the way that we do our adoptions the money comes back in from the adoption fee and saves another horse. If we just give the horse away thats where the ball stops rolling. That seems like it is negating everyones efforts to do this.

      15. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Hi Christine – The idea is to adopt the horse out and ask for an adoption fee. We have to keep the rescue circle going. That is what all rescues do. The adoption fee means we can go back and pick up another horse. Sorry, for the confusion.

      16. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Hi Christine. It would be nice if you could try and adopt the horses out to GOOD homes and get an adoption fee to pick up more horses. Certainly it would be an overwhelming task if rescues took in horses and not adopt them out. Then you could not take more in. What does everyone else think?

      17. Dear Madame
        Lets make it simple for the people to understand it better.
        —First i would like to know how many draft horses are there exactly ? if you can just drive there 10 minutes away and see exactly,would be good.
        — How much is that man asking for each horse more or less ?
        — Is there a possibility to get a deal if someone is buying them all ?
        If yes please collect the money from people for i might be able to get a deal if he is really the “dealer type”. I can eventually talk to him directly there at his place.
        — For those who would like to donate some money PLEASE DO IT FAST !!!
        Days are passing and the horses are still there.
        — Also those who donated already money if they feel comfortable and if they leave around my area they are more than welcome to come to my place and enjoy the horses they paid for at any time !!!
        — If people have their terms somehow for the money they paid please let us know.
        — CONCLUSION—WHO CAN CONTRIBUTE WITH DONATIONS TO CLARIFY THE SITUATION WITHE THOSE HORSES ???
        HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ALREADY IN ???

      18. There are probably about 300 horses on the property right now. I cannot see all areas. We are looking at 500-800 perhorse, maybe more maybe a bit less. He makes no deals and will have uninvited visitors removed immediately. I really don’t want to risk my “relationship” with him, If he won’t sell me any horses because I pissed him off would not be good.

      19. Well,reading your affirmations here and there it comes to my attention few things.The most important thing for you is to keep getting cash as much as people can sent and in return you offer them nothing for the money they paid,did i missed something ???
        In fact you do not want to have someone taking care of those horses,you want to keep your business relationship with than man under any circumstance—finding a home for 6 big Percherons is not a matter of concern for you,just to keep the cash flowing is.
        You want to keep the ball rolling because it produces a dollar here and there—the mathematics behind this horse saving business is very simple—each one that moves a horses from here to there gets few dollars in their pockets.
        Now i found out that in fact there are 300 horses there not 10 as we can see in the pictures,how is that possible ??? So the problem is not for a few draft horses but is for 300 horses (maybe few belong to the man)
        I do not know how many people are reading this but this starts to smell bad somewhere.
        Also how about letting people to decide what they prefer to do with the money they sent ??? because i doubt very much you have extensive expertize in shoeing draft horses and a lot of care for the medical side when it comes to paying their vet bills.You do not want someone to take care of those horses but you forgot those horses will be bought from people’s money—what do they get in return from you ???
        Also what control or decision you give to people over the money they paid or will pay ???
        If people prefer that you take a horse from there and you move it somewhere else-i will say no more.
        My feeling was different in the beginning but i start to realize that my interference is breaking someone’s business.
        So what people have to say ???

      20. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Ghindean, what I get from sending in my 200 is the pleasure that I have helped save a horse. Please don’t jump to conclusions. Lets see how much money she collects and how many she can save. There is no money to be made here. I am sure she will let us know soon enough how many horses she rescues. If she can keep a good relationship going with this KB so much the better and we can get more horses.

      21. Dear Mary-Joe
        You did great trying to sent money specially in the situation you mentioned above about your family.I appreciate that.
        My problem is that there is too much talking and nothing gets done.I see people enjoy chatting and editing texts on websites when in fact this discussion should be made very simple in few very clear points.
        My approach to this is different because after almost 150 comments people are just exchanging impressions and opinions,clear facts i do not see them.Please correct me if i am wrong but i did not see anyone else except of me wanting to take another 10 horses on his back from that man,is that correct ???
        I like to give people the possibility to chose what they think is the best for them,so let them say what they think.
        Government imposes control over your money—i do not.Freedom of choice to decide what you like to have on your money you sent to rescue a horse in this case.
        I have no problem if people prefer to save a horse here and move it there.Buy it for 500 $ and selling it for 550 $.
        If people like to sent money over the internet without having the smallest amount of security and control to where exactly the money are going—there is not much i can do in that case,specially when someone else is dictating how and what to be done with the money—sorry that never worked for me.But as i said people decide and they should ask more questions and get informed properly.
        I just offered them, to those who are closer to my area and if they made donations,the possibility to come and enjoy the horses they paid for.And for the rest of them i will upload videos on the internet periodically.They will be public for everyone to see them.
        Which option is better ???

      22. What is your problem?? We are non-profit, we do not make money from our horses. We have lots of experience with all horses, not just Drafts. I did not come you you guys, I was approached by this group and asked to help. I don’t deserve your comments, you make us sound suspect and I don’t appreciate that. If you don’t understand why I need to get along with the meat buyers then at least don’t criticise! I am doing this for the horses!!! What I am offering is help, if people want horses to go to somewhere other than here that is fine, I will get the horse out and they can come and get it or arrange trailering. If the horse comes here until adopted all may come and visit, I will keep everyone informed of everything.

      23. My problem is that you avoid clear answers to my questions,where i put the signs “???” they represent a question there and it needs a very clear answer.
        And then what looks curious to me and i will repeat it again.
        All this comments are about few horses that are about to go to slaughter or is about 300 horses ??? which i doubt many people saw 300 in one place.
        Why you have stayed quiet for so long and you did not said nothing when you knew there are so may horses there and your neighbor is a meat dealer ???
        Why don’t you go there and take some pictures so we can see the real hearth of the problem ???
        Why is this article about few horses when in fact there are 300 there ???

        The other aspect of the problem and how it appears to me is this—how about me going to take some pictures of my neighbor horses saying they are about to be butchered and then crying out for people to throw in some cash ??? is this a nice way to make some extra cash ???—sure it is.
        Did you thought of it in that way ???
        Me too i want to save 20 horses so who likes to sent me lots of cash ???(that’s how i see it)
        If you like so much to get donations lots of them,why don’t you give us some numbers—i like numbers so i want to see how much money people sent you.
        Me too i would like people to throw in some cash every week,lots of it and nobody knows exactly how much in fact,and if i am lucky i can buy myself a bigger truck—that’s how it sounds to me,some sort of mambo jumbo…
        If people sent you 835 dollars and 53 cents we would like to see those 53 cents where are they going and who is handling them.
        One thing is clear to me—someone else needs to handle this business,or in 5 years from now people will be still babbling here about saving a horse or two from the guy backyard,time in which he killed 1000 …

      24. Ok. Can we please settle down. Arguing and ego only hurts the horses. With every delay due to egos and discord, more horses die.
        Each week that passes over 1000 horses die in Canadian slaughterhouses. Please put your energies into ending horse slaughter not bickering. If it continues then this post and comment string will be deleted. Thank you.

      25. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Ghindean, Why don’t you send in some money and have Chrstine rescue a horse for you, maybe two. That will certainly help a horse or two.

      26. You want me to sent money in the wind when she is not even able to answer elementary questions to clarify a situation ???
        I am sorry but i cannot do that,it just does not smell good to me from any point of view.If i would have been there at the guy’s place i would have bought a few. And besides that i believe my offer is much more valuable on long term than saving a pony here and there,what do you think???
        There is nothing you can do with anybody here,i am sorry for that but people just babel stupidities because i interrupted and disturbed their daily chatting session.
        They came here to chat and exchange impression sitting in the front of a computer rather than going to collect some money from door to door if they want to save some horses.
        When you shake them good and the dust is falling off, that’s what you have left—nothing.
        Did you see anyone coming here with a smart idea,and ingenious offer or proposition???
        I did not,they came here to chat and they look upset their chatting is gone.
        Poor horses,there is no one they can count on…When there will be no more horses left in this country,the banks will credit to fools so they can make imports from Europe and the cycle will begin again.
        What you see here is the impotence of an incompetent and bankrupt society,living on credit+interest from one day to another.Things got that far because people are sleeping and they have no dignity to stand for themselves,they have nothing to say.When the wind blows,they are gone with the wind.
        How about going to the parliament to protest and smash them down there till they will stop the slaughter in this country because they sit there like parasites and they took your vote,how about that ???
        I bet i will not have 10 followers,in the next 2 days,it just proves you what i said before.

      27. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Hi Ghidean. This is not about doing business on horse rescueing. I am quite happy if my 200.00 saves a horse and you want to take it and keep it at your place. You sound like a very passionate horse person. I think what Christine was trying to establish is whether we would like to put the horse up for adoption, collect an adoption fee, take that money and rescue another horse. That is what most rescue places do. If you want to keep them and give them a forever home that is okay. If you want to try and adopt the horse to someone you know that will provide a good home and then rescue another that will work as well. No one here is out to make any money with any of the horses. The adoption fees just means that we could rescue more horses. If rescue places took all the horses and did not adopt them out, then they would certainly run out of room pretty quickly. Anyway that is my take on it. I think we should see how many people have sent in money and how many horses Christine is able to pick up. As I posted before I can’t send anymore money until the end of next month as I have a son getting married.
        Cheers

  20. Michelle Treen · ·

    Does anyone know the address of this feedlot? Thank you

    1. frances · ·

      did he make you pay more than he paid? i guess he likes the draft horses because hell get more $. i hate to see horses reduced to pounds.

      1. Draft horses are heavier yes, but their bones are bigger also, he does pay well for a meaty riding style horse. Yes, he always charges around $200 more, even if he only owned them for 2 minutes. Its ok I am just happy he will sell them. That is why I prefer to outbid him at auctions, each extra $200 could help to save another horse.

    2. andalvin1962 · ·

      The feedlot is on Highway 36 just outside of the town of Lindsay, Ontario.

    3. If you know where I E Weldon Secondary school is in Lindsay, the back feedlot is boardering the high school. E Grof Livestock.

  21. Gentlemen
    I am from Morin Heights,Quebec about 6 hours from that place.I do have the possibility and the space to take a few Percherons to my place but i do not really have the possibility to buy them all.If people can buy them as soon as possible we can arrange somehow the transport to my place.I have another 3 huge draft horses so they will be fine here at my place with mine.Probably i can fit in my trailer 2 horses at the time but if someone has a bigger trailer is more than welcome. Also if people can make donations i will promise to you all—i will get them all but only with your help !!!
    For those who would like to know more here is a link to a video with a horse i saved about 2 weeks ago from an ignorant owner.I am a harness maker and a farrier so i know what those horses need and how things have to be done.The horse i saved started to run already and she is starting to recover.Video below.

    Please let me know as soon people are ready.

    1. Wonderful! We do have lots of space right now, just not the funds to save every horse that needs us. It will be great to have a network of people to assist with our efforts, it has sometimes be a struggle, and emotionally devastating, but very worthwhile!!!

    2. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      Vous avez fait un grand chose.

      1. Thanks, I got your message nd did reply to you earlier, we are also very experienced with draft horses, all breeds. We have lots of space for them, of course if someone wanted to save approx 300 of them perhaps not…. I love the draft breed, my first horses were a team of Belgians. Of course I love all horses but they were my first….

      2. Thank you very much.Yes i can take at my place Percherons or Belgians no problem.I just wonder from where those horses are coming from ??? what kind of man could have sent them to be killed in such way…they are great horses and from what i can see from the pictures they have a nice shape,probably somewhere around 17 hands…
        I just want o clarify one thing—people were asking in the comments above about the possibility to keep some of those horses to someone’s private place and no one said anything. Now that I offered myself to take 5 or 6 or them people are not so sure. So are all people really serious about this ???
        Is this about saving those horses or is about just collecting money ???
        I am sure few thousands dollars can be packed in a few days and those horses bought from there,its just i am not sure people say what they really think…

  22. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    I believe the outgoing support from followers of the CHDC will be substantial, as this is an opportunity do do something POSITIVE for these unfortunates.

    1. frances · ·

      at this point saving even one of these guys is a success. i would like to save them all. im not sure why the canadian government supporting slaughterhouses for horses, or the killing of seals, etc.i feel ashamed to be canadian when i see these things. im so glad when people try to help, also glad there are people out there rescuing horses like freedom valley and whispering acres etc.

      1. I will speak to Jeff Grof on Saturday. hopefully we will have an idea of funds raised by then to know what I can commit to then, and in the future. I would love it if we could keep this momentum going. There are so many good horses in the meat yards!! For example, We saved a huge Belgian gelding Doc, he had been the lazy half of a competitive pulling team – he had been retired and rehomed. The people could not keep him anymore so brought him and their other horses to auction. The meat buyer (Grof)bought him for $650. We got him out of the meat yard the following Sunday (after much $$$ juggling), a lovely famiy that live about 10 min east of us came to meet him on the Friday and adopted him! Yay! He is still happy, healthy and thriving, I drive by thier place regularly-he raises his head every time I call out “Hello my buddy!!” His was almost an unhappy ending…..

      2. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Hi Christine – I sent my money to you, $200.00. If you could pick up that Belgian that is there in the feedlot and send him to the gentleman in Quebec I would be greateful. Somehow his face has been haunting me.

  23. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    Mine will be going in the mail tomorrow. Hopefully she can get more than one.

  24. I am happy to be able to be a part of this effort! We can buy from Grof’s yard and from one other meat buyer, there is only one meat buyer that took a dislike to my blog-even though he originally gave me permission to post pics etc. and now he just curses at me and will not sell me any more horses…. The horses in Grofs back yrd may not have had the slaughter paperwork required for immediate shipping. He then has to keep them for at least 6 months.. Please check out Freedom Valley Horse Rescues blog: horseadoptontario.blogspot.com

    1. Dear Mrs.Welch

      I have the possibility to take at my place those Percherons from there but i do not have the possibility to buy them.I just made a comment down the page and a video( i do not know if it can be seen yet).I have also 3 huge draft horses at my place and i saved another small horse 2 weeks ago, so they should be fine here with my horses.My trailer is a little too small to load them all but maybe someone has a bigger trailer and it can help.I am ready at any time to come there despite the fact i live in Morin Heights,Quebec,6 hours away.
      I just cannot stand the idea of those horse being cut in pieces and served in a plate.
      For those who are ready to help,this has to be done fast.

  25. frances · ·

    i see-horses are just treated the same as cattle, whenever convenient for people

    1. Hi Frances, just spoke with Christine Welch, what a nice gal, shei s 10 mins from jeff goefs place, gave her the info that we all have been speaking of and told her monies are coming in the mail to her so as to get whatever horses she can, thanks for the info, i am in colorado but would like to help also.

      1. frances · ·

        THATS great!! ill have to send in whatever i can too.

  26. Sending monies today, thanks to everyone for caring, would love to be informed of the outcome, how many were saved and if in deed the horses were still there.

    1. http://www.fallonlivestock.com/reports/2012/20120501.pdf

      Here are the lastest prices per lb for all animals….the horses are at the bottom of the list.

  27. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    I sent my support in the mail on May 14, as i am still confident something positive can be achieved as it relates to these unfortunates.

    1. frances · ·

      yes-she will let us know.-she did say that she can get someone else to buy them.

  28. frances · ·

    i dont think they have any empathy left, or they just didnt have any.i still dont know why people want to kill any animal, let alone a horse. i think both anti slaughter and pro slaughter groups keep track on each other,

    1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      It is too bad I can’t post a remark to the pro slaughter group. It probably would be removed fairly quickly.

  29. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    Now that we have the address, its time for action friends, as this is achievable.

    1. frances · ·

      yes…as it turned out the owner -kill buyer- of the horses was not happy about the blog, so shell have to send someone else to try and buy horse.-the problem with kill buyers that they are unscrupulous- i hope they are still there.

      1. If someone has the address I would try Google Earth to see if the property comes up.

      2. Kerry · ·

        How horrible that a human being, an alleged child of God, would be so mean as to purposefully send these creatures to their barbaric deaths, out of spite. The devil, indeed, walks among us.

      3. Brandy · ·

        Amen Kerry !!! You Just Said It All * These Kill Buyers Need A All Day Trip To One Of Those ” Living Hell On Earth Slaughter Houses” * See The ” Horrific & Cruel” That These ” Beautiful, Innocent & Feeling Horses Go Through”…To Be Killed !!!! Total Greed & Total Abomination *

      4. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        We must have a spy in the midst who has spilled the beans or this guy has logged in to monitor CHDC. I presume it is the latter. How awful. He is no child of God, I agree. How do we go and buy one of these horses, now. I have heard however that some KB do have a heart and will sell to rescues if they can get the same money. But others, like this one, is just plain cruel. OMG, I am hoping that these horses are still there. I pray.

      5. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Apparently there was a big add in the Toronto Star today, from a Mr. James the owner of Grand Race Way. It is to the point and very well presented to the people of Ontario. Please have a read. It is a good article. CHDC please post it on this blog.

  30. frances · ·

    i did ask christine at the rescue if they would do that….. the address is:
    Freedom Valley Horse Rescue
    1012 Mount Horeb Rd
    RR #3 Omemee, Ont
    K0L 2W0
    TO: Christine Welch

    also tammy ann savage who has met her said she might be able to arrange visits at the rescue

    1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      Christine, you will have my cheque early next week.

  31. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    Francis, thankyou for getting us to this point, and i am sure that the followers of CHDC will come through for these unfortunates, i know i will. We all look forward to the mailing address as soon as possible in order to support this positive cause.

    1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

      Will they let us know which ones they pick up?

  32. frances · ·

    TO ALL PEOPLE WANTING TO HELP; freedom valley horse rescue can buy the horse or horses but will need to get donations asap, they do have a donation function but it is not working at the moment.-i will get the address so people can send it,in , i can also donate but only with my credit card so will have to wait a few weeks –

  33. I AM IN ALSO.

  34. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    I am hoping these horses are still there.

  35. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    I am not on face book, but follow the CHDC blogs daily. I am still solidly in for 200$, and it looks like we have something positive going, as others are willing to financially support helping relocate these HORSES at this Lindsay feed lot as well. There seems to be momentum in this endevaour, Will an organizer who follows the CHDC blog contact those wanting to help? I am sure there are those who can contribute to the HORSES. keep, perhaps on monthly basis. I am in for that as well.

    1. frances · ·

      i did send a message to freedom valley hr. today, atill waiting for a reply

  36. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    Good morning. I am glad that I started something. Yes I am tired of just sitting here watching this happen. The only thing I can do is pitch in monetarily because I do not have a place of my own. I have always wanted to rescue a horse and give it some type of a promising future. Someone sugested I look at the website Camelot Rescue. These horses can be purchased for very cheap. I am just wondering if we could start doing something similar. At least give theses horses a chance at being adopted before going to slaughter. I am in for $200.00 at the moment. Lets start with a couple and see how it goes. We don’t all need to have barns and farms to help. Someone who has facilities would be a good person to start getting something organized. Cheers
    Mary-Joe

    1. I do rescue here in the U.S. To make this work you need someone who can manage the Chip-In program, it is free. If the feedlot will allow it, you also will need a couple of folks who can go to the feedlot and get the necessary info on each animal and take a photo.

      This info can then be upload to a website and facebook.

      Marge

    2. frances · ·

      HERE IS SOME INFO FROM THE FB PAGE-some people wanted to know if they could buy some of those horses at the feedlot, is this possible?
      Thursday at 9:02pm · Like
      Tammy Ann Savage I think it’s totally possible. Christine from Freedom Valley Horse Rescue can buy directly from him. She doesn’t agree with what he does but she can buy from him.
      Yesterday at 9:13am · Like
      Tammy Ann Savage These kb don’t care where the money comes from as long as they make a profit but they have been known to not sell to someone they don’t like just to cause the person pain, i imagine. they have no feelings for horses.
      Yesterday at 9:16am · Like · 1

  37. I CAN PITCH IN ALSO, LET ME KNOW WHATS GOING ON.

  38. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    How much does a horse cost from the feed lot. Does anyone have a farm that can take a couple. I do not have a farm but am willing to help buy. I don’t have a lot of money, but one I can muster. How long are these horses held there? – The conservative government couldn’t give a shit about anything. And yes Equine Canada is silent on this and so is the Ontario Equestrian Federation.

    1. If it is possible to purchase directly from the feed lot and a group could get together and find some folks and rescues to take them in, they could set up a chip-in program for folks to donate the money.

      This is what is being done in a couple of auction here in the U.S. Camelot does this and every week they clean out the kill pen in New Jersey. If you want to check their program they are on facebook and also have a website.

      Marge

    2. frances · ·

      i asked and someone said this was possible, go to the facebook page and start message if you want to help

    3. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

      I noted a comment by someone who mentioned, that although he could not provide a farm environment he would definitely contribute fiscally. I to do not have access to a farm, however i to will contribute what i can 200$. I definitely commend this person, who offered to help financially. Sounds to me you are sick of the bullshit, and want things to happen NOW to save these unfortunates. Yes IT IS ACHIEVABLE with the support of CHDC FOLLOWERS. Lets make it happen. Will an organizer come forward and contact those who have COMMENTED

  39. Hannah · ·

    Does Grof allow people to buy horses from his feedlot?

    1. Kelly · ·

      YES HE DOES!!! Please if there is anyone out there that would like to “free” a horse from this undeniable inhumane death camp please contact Erin Sowden of Freemount Farm in Puslinch, ON..she knows how to get in touch with him!

      1. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

        Then I think he should contact Christine Welch and get one for our the group. I am sending my cheque to Christine.

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  41. Janet · ·

    That is so sad. I would love to have one of those Gentle Giants. I lost my Gentle Giant last weekend. We had our veterinarian put her to sleep. She was almost 30 years old and she had congestive heart failure. We rescued her about 17 years ago. We gave her a good home for all the years we had her and she was truly loved. It broke our hearts to loose her. I would love to put one of those horses in that picture in my field. Those poor horses. After reading all of these articles, I will NEVER EVER sell any of my horses. They will be with me for their life.

    1. Janet so sorry for your loss….it is so hard.

      1. Janet · ·

        Thank you

  42. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    For those CHDC followers who wish to email Mr. Mulcair thomas.mulcair@parl.gc.ca

    1. THANKS DENNIS

  43. frances · ·

    THERE SHOULD BE A PROTEST NEAR THIS PERSONS PLACE.

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    All I can do is cry…Bruce Stanton & the rest of the Conservative Government of Canada think it is ok to inhumanly slaughter these friendly COMPANION to put on someone’s plate for money. Equine Canda is MUTE on the subject….what a betrayal!

  45. LINDA BADHAM · ·

    HOW IN GODS NAME CAN THIS BE HAPPENING ! IT’S A DISGRACE TO MANKIND ! I HATE THIS LIFE FOR ANIMALS I TRULY DO !! PRAYER IS ALL I CAN DO AND SIGN PETITIONS ECT AS I’M IN THE UK.

    1. frances · ·

      i know. wish we could all go there an and rescue them. instead of sitting here watching murderers operate. its really not fair to them as we know about it and still we wont do anything

  46. Kerry · ·

    I cannot stop crying. We are failing our animal gifts from God in so many ways.

  47. Lana · ·

    Is there anyway to BUY these horses freedom? How many are there? Is there a draft breeder supplying him with horses?

  48. Could we get the email for Thomas Mulcair, it has to stop.

    1. Hi Bev, got you cheque today, only problem is that it is made out to Freedom Valley, I cannot cash it. You are not the only person who did this. The following is the info that I gave to Francis: “We are at 1012 Mount Horeb Rd, R.R.#3 Omemee, ON K0L 2W0. We are in the process of setting up an account for the rescue, in the meantime cheques can be made out to Christine or Howie Welch. We have an acct that is used basically for the rescue but in our names, we were doing this so long by ourselves but hopefully that is changing now so we are setting it up for non-profit and getting it goin! Yay! We would be interested if anyone would want to help sponsor a “long timer”, we do have several that I am sure will be here forever….and would love to have a pasture devoted to that….. I have my dreams, would love to make it reality! “.

      Any others who want to help out with this effort is appreciated !!!

      1. frances · ·

        this is what i wrote….i did ask christine at the rescue if they would do that….. the address is:
        Freedom Valley Horse Rescue
        1012 Mount Horeb Rd
        RR #3 Omemee, Ont
        K0L 2W0
        TO: Christine Welch

  49. frances · ·

    is there anyone else supporting this

  50. DENNIS DAVEY · ·

    M.P. Atamanenko seems to have vanished from the scene. Iam a avid follower of Question Period from monday to thursday, friday they are in committes. If someone from the N.D.P. caucus dose not provide M.P. Atamanenko with their time to speak to this issue further, i fear it will again fall to the wayside. Perhaps CHDC followers should EMAIL Thomas Mulcair at the Parliament Buildings, and remind him of the fact many thousands of Horses will continue to be inhumanely slaughtered, only to end up on some Europeans Dinner plate, if there is no action taken in Parliament NOW.

    1. Sammy · ·

      Where is Alex? I dunno.
      As a CHDC follower and horse-lover myself, I have taken the time to write a nice polite letter with lots of Info, to NDP “Thomas Mulcair” . Emailed him (T. Mulcair) 3 times since the 28th of March, 2012 and still NO response. (nadda)
      Maybe everyone else who is as concerned could do the same.
      thomas.mulcair@parl.gc.ca
      TKS- Merci

      1. andalvin1962 · ·

        The CHDC is waiting for a response from Mr. Mulcair as well. We suspect that he has a lot on his plate so we are hoping to hear from his office soon.

      2. OLEX is in St Jacobs, near Kitchener

      3. I sent a email to alex and got a return email, but it was in french and i could not read it. let me know about the check, read above blog

      4. frances · ·

        should have been more specific about address

  51. Sharon Stone · ·

    It’s up to all of us to try and change the fate of our friends. Adopt and rescue, push for the stop of overbreeding and push the government to end this.

  52. frances · ·

    IM SO SORRY.

  53. eileen tyler .uk · ·

    so very very sad

  54. First, thank-you for sharing this with us. Took me a few seconds before I could even start to type. My eyes filled with tears. I see those pictures, especially the hand reaching out to the grey horse over the ugly fence, I gaze out my window & took deep breaths to come back & finish reading this story. May I congrade the person(s) who took their courage & time to write & visit these poor souls. Who is the Editor to this wonderful page?
    Although the Horses seemed fed, ect like you say, I find this place a looking like a “Concentration Camp!” For god-sakes, when will this madness end…
    Farewell to all these angels.
    ~We are still here for you all and always will.~
    Tks 😦

    1. frances · ·

      the only reason they are feeding them is so they will get more $$$ when they are taken

  55. Mary-Joe Figueira · ·

    it breaks my heart as well. I can’t imagine the poor horses. You were very brave going there to take these pictures. I wouldn’t even had to the courage to go in that direction. I can’t imagine a “decent” human being sending their beloved horses to the feed lot. I really find it hard to see this. Anyone know how Minister’s Atamenko’s bill is doing through Parliament?

  56. Brandy · ·

    Tears !!! How heart wrenching & wrong *

  57. I can only think of one word through my tears…..heartbreaking!

  58. andalvin1962 · ·

    Once again we see a feedlot filled with Gentle Giants and we must ask, where are the true supporters of these drafts?

    The breed associations sit silently by while thousands of these Gentle Giants are put through the slaughter pipeline after faithful service to man.

    We hear of the forward thinking from the racing community who are finally working on programs to help their horses.

    Where are the draft associations?? This writer had the wretched task, along with several others, of viewing the raw footage taken from three Canadian slaughterhouses that kill horses. This footage was summarized in CHDC reports which can be accessed here: http://www.defendhorsescanada.org/investigations.html

    To see these amazing gentle horses being butchered like they were was and is completely soul-destroying.

    Some of the breed associations are listed here:

    http://www.canadianbelgianhorse.com/
    Astoundingly, their web site has a link (http://www.canadianbelgianhorse.com/links.html ) to the CFIA’s web page on “Traceability & Requirements for sending Horses to Slaughter”. Belgians are the most at-risk draft breed for slaughter. Not suprising when you see that the very association that purports to care about them has no problem sending them to that horrible end.

    http://www.ontariopercherons.ca/index.php?&MMN_position=1:1

    http://canadianclydesdales.ca/

    http://www.belgiancorp.com/

    1. Lana · ·

      I am emailing the Canadian Belgian Horse website….just sickening to see those horses at the feedlot, & even sicker with their ‘puppy mill’ mentality! Those beautiful percheron’s as well…pathetic!

    2. Kelly · ·

      Hello..my name is Kelly and my hubby and I have been going to OLEX(Ontario Livestock Exchange) for 5 years and have “rescued” over 30 of these magnificant creatures-5 of which were pregnant mares!! I’m only saying this to make people aware that this is where the kill buyers get the majority of their horses…the sale is every Tuesday..year round…and the numbers, breeds,ages always vary but the fall seems to be the time of year when the killpens are the fullest…especially with the heavies….they have worked hard all their lives and when they are “all used up” they are sent for meat in the fall so they don’t have to be fed over the winter…..tossed aside and discarded like yesterday’s newspaper…Geoff is there every Tuesday without fail….he is definitely their biggest “client”…..but in fairness to Geoff..if he sees someone else bidding on a horse he will back off….and if you approach him after the sale he will sell you a horse for basically what he had to pay….but I have never had to do that as he would not pursue bidding if he saw us bidding…..there are groups out there that are trying very hard to save some of these unfortunate creatures..but unfortunately they can’t all be saved….people always say to me that they don’t know how I could go there….my answer is very simple…if we didn’t…that’s over 30 horses plus 5 foals that wouldn’t have lived..period…..if anyone is serious about saving these wonderful creatures find a way..any way…..thank you…

      1. frances · ·

        i think these particular horses belonged to another kill buyer, not grof.

      2. frances · ·

        thats wonderful…it is an unimaginable hell for those horses

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